The process of finding nirvana whatever that enlightenment means to someone could be a successful job or a happy life whatever that means to finding happiness and content is a process of Discovery and repetition that's the bottom line there are certainly random events that are unknown to us but given that human existence is rather random it's just the process of multiple trials to find the right one for you. That's why some of us need multiple lives to get it right or multiple heavens or whatever that cycle the cycle of repetition they they proceeded something like a strange loop we are depending on how you look at it either condemned or Permitted to cycle through whatever it is. Really eternally is best I can tell. Because we can fail and try again we never really fail. But it seems we can stop trying and the only motivation to persist and improve its self motivation intrinsic process that defies physicality it is simply a will to continue. When do dice stop rolling? when we stop rolling them. If you accept that analogy then we started it all we are self actualized and therefore it is entirely a self driven process... whatever it is. Only we individually can self actualize and we were self actualize we were the product of another self actualization. You see the cycles here? this sort of strange loop. Whatever happens to us in this existence we perceive this system if you will, spins off other self actualization that is really up to us to determine the magnitude and longevity of those self actualization I mean look, some people started religions and we remember them thousands of years later. There are rulers and Warriors like genghis khan who is attributable to something like 1/10 of the world's DNA. And let us not forget the thinkers and the philosophers those who create things beauty either in their minds or in some kind of tangible form the poets the writers. These are all important to well I won't even cast judgment, Their legacy speaks for itself. we remember them through their works. That is key self actualization is a legacy and we must be self actualized to have any hope of onem